Pardus 2008 - Where were you?

Arch Linux has been having hard lockups recently, so I decided to try out a new distro. I had a look at Distrowatch for a different distro to try. I'm very picky with my distros...here's what I said about each:

  • Ubuntu - It's Gnome...
  • openSUSE - Tried it, I don't really like the package management
  • Fedora - Too Gnome orientated
  • Mint - Gnome orientated
  • PCLinuxOS - Way outdated
  • Debian - No updater for KDE or Xfce - It's very Gnome dependent
  • Mandriva - Tried it, way too slow and a resource hog
  • Dreamlinux - Don't like the "Mac like" feel to it
  • Sabayon - A whole DVD to download, and it's very bloated
  • DSL - My computer's not that old!
  • CentOS - Nope..
  • Slackware - Too "hard" to work and takes a while to set up
  • Kubuntu - Slow..
  • Gentoo - A weekend compiling on a laptop? I don't think so
  • Puppy - Again, no need for an ultra lightweight distro
  • Arch - I'm switching from you (for now)
  • MEPIS - Could have chosen this...
  • FreeBSD - Same as Slackware
  • Zenwalk - I actually installed this, and the package manager is absolutely horrible!
  • KNOPPIX - Nope. It's a live CD not really made for installing
  • gOS - Don't like the Myspace orientation
  • sidux - Too hard to maintain

This went on for most of the list until I got to Pardus. I hadn't tried it out for quite a while, and I noticed that they had released a new version called "2008".

The installer

The installer is absolutely beautiful. Orange is a great colour to choose, as I think it is highly underrated as a colour scheme. Sure, Ubuntu uses it a little, but not as much as Pardus Wink Personally I've gone with a green and orange theme, and it looks amazing Smile Big

Anyway, the installer was very easy to understand, and didn't have any problems. The partitioner was very nice, and I like that you could add all of the users you wanted before the installation. The installation was pretty fast, probably a bit slower than Ubuntu though...

The desktop experience

Pardus includes a lot of home grown applications, such as PiSi, their package manager, and Tasma, their customized KDE control centre.

PiSi

Pardus didn't use APT or RPM with their distro. Instead they made their own package manager called PiSi. The GUI is very simple and easy to use, and is quite quick with installation. It has a "New packages" section, "Installed packages" section and an "Upgradable packages" section.

Migration assistant

Pardus includes a migration assistant, like Ubuntu does, to import your Windows files and settings from you Windows partition.

Network Manager

No, it isn't that horrible, buggy NetworkManager. The Pardus devs have even made their own network manager, somewhat similar to Mandriva's one. I could connect very easily (my wireless card's drivers are open source Smile Big) to my WPA encrypted wireless network.

Artwork

The orange artwork the Pardus devs have produced is absolutely beautiful. I set my wallpaper as their orange one, which goes very well with my green colour scheme. There is a gfxmenu for GRUB instead of an ugly black and white terminal like screen greeting you on bootup. The bootsplash theme is also very nice. The KDM theme isn't as nice as I thought it would be, but it's ok nevertheless.

sysinfo:/ for Konqueror

Pardus includes the popular sysinfo:/ KIO for Konqueror from openSUSE, and have given it a makeover. Personally I think it looks way better than the openSUSE one..

Kickoff menu

openSUSE's Kickoff menu is disabled by default, but I enabled it. It is a lot wider than on openSUSE for some reason, but still works as great Smile

Applications included

Most of the necessary KDE apps are included, but they included Gnome MPlayer for some strange reason, and Kaffeine installed as well. There is OpenOffice.org included, and Kontact, KDE's PIM suite. Obviously, Amarok is included, and so is the KDE games and utilities suite. Their web browser of choice is Mozilla Firefox 3.

Conclusion

Pardus is a very good distro, and should really be much higher on the Distrowatch rankings. They really do know what beautiful is Smile and includes a plethora of applications. I highly recommend this distro if you are just starting out using Linux or want to introduce Linux to someone else.

After a while...

Pardus worked out pretty well in the beginning, but after a while it started to get a bit unstable. I booted up and sometimes was greeted with a _ . Yes, no terminal or anything! I also got hard lockups randomly when I was working, which got a bit annoying. Don't really know why it was doing that though.

Screenshots (no review is complete without them Wink)

Desktop: My customized Pardus desktopDesktop: My customized Pardus desktopPiSi: Pardus' package managerPiSi: Pardus' package managerTasma: KControl with some customizationTasma: KControl with some customizationKickoff menu: The somewhat wide Kickoff menuKickoff menu: The somewhat wide Kickoff menusysinfo:/: The system information page in Konquerorsysinfo:/: The system information page in Konqueror

Comments

few more things about Pardus 2008

Pardus 2008. came with alot of interesting features:

Latest Kernel (2.6.25.5) and latest KDE 4 in repository
PulseAudio
Many speed/functionality improvements to all the major components (YALI/PISI/COMAR)
New visual design

When I checked it last time Pradus 2008 had no live CD, so m not sure if it is out yet? All the basic tasks are supported through application selection, but not the torrents. Some supported applications are

OpenOffice
GIMP
Firefox(RC2)
PulseAudio

Though Pardus 2008 has its own Package Management System with GUI but I was not able to install applications using PISI GUI tool in beta version but later RC1 fixed that. It didn't detected the existing linux installation may be the detection system not updated yet. I have working experience in linux environment for web design and development projects but never got to work with pardus 2008.

few more things about Pardus 2008

Pardus 2008. came with alot of interesting features:

Latest Kernel (2.6.25.5) and latest KDE 4 in repository
PulseAudio
Many speed/functionality improvements to all the major components (YALI/PISI/COMAR)
New visual design

When I checked it last time Pradus 2008 had no live CD, so m not sure if it is out yet? All the basic tasks are supported through application selection, but not the torrents. Some supported applications are

OpenOffice
GIMP
Firefox(RC2)
PulseAudio

Though Pardus 2008 has its own Package Management System with GUI but I was not able to install applications using PISI GUI tool in beta version but later RC1 fixed that. It didn't detected the existing linux installation may be the detection system not updated yet. I have working experience in linux environment for web design and development projects but never got to work with pardus 2008.

How about......

Did it run well? What hardware were you using? How long did you have it up. what problems did you have if any, etc. The meat of a good informative review is in the details and not a tour of the eye candy.

Slackware is definitely too

Slackware is definitely too hard to work. I've always had problems with it, so I decided not to use it.

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Migration Assistant

"Pardus includes a migration assistant, like Ubuntu does, to import your Windows files and settings from you Windows partition."

it should be ".. from your windows ..."

It's nice to hear there is someone who uses a Turkish distro around here Smile

Pardus 2008

Pardus is the only distro ( and i tried a lot ) that runs good on my acer aspire 5315, too bad PCLINUXOS doesnt Sad
NO problems with wifi, audio or video.

For now (for me) its the best distro around, ofcourse it always depends on what hardware u use....

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Pardus, eh..
(-_-)
You should try sabayonPod (sabayon mini release) and it's gentoo based, an italian distro.
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(o.O)

sabayonPod?

Last time I looked at the Sabayon website there was only a DVD version for 3.5. But now I see there is a "lite" version? Hmm maybe I could try this out. Thanks for that Smile

Pardus (I'm on sidux)

I'm completely agree with you about Pardus.
Is the best distro to start using linux!
I like the localization too, because I'm Italian!

A question for you: Are you sure that Arch is more easy to maintain then sidux?
I use sidux from march, I learned a lot, to navigate on sidux without danger bug too.
I'm interested if you used sidux, Can you explain me the differences?

I did use sidux...

Sidux is a pretty nice Linux distro. It's bleeding edge and rolling release. A lot like Arch. But updating on it isn't so easy. I can use Synaptic but on their website it's recommended to use their scripts only. So I tried out the scripts. I had to download loads and loads of data (but not in X, I had to change to a tty to do it...) then answer questions about the kernel. Why? All I wanted was to upgrade to a new kernel release? Why is that so difficult?

Arch is a lot easier to maintain. A simple "pacman -Syu" command in the terminal will sync the repos and upgrade your system. I find that a lot easier than the scripts sidux uses to stabilize sid.

Not so hard

sidux is not so hard!
The sidux team's mission is to stabilize debian sid, and to do that they are very cautious. This is the reason they can't recommend synaptic or any other package manager that make "smart" automated decision on the upgrade process. This is the reason they recommend to exit the X and go to init 3 before a dist-upgrade so if you will upgrade X or the kernel you don't risk to crash the system.
Sid isn't a distribution, is a repository of packages, sometimes go in a dependences problem they I manage with apt-listbugs and the sidux forum Update Alerts, or with the smxi script (an independent developed debian script, no more distributed with the sidux cd, but it continue to support sidux).
To download all the packages you need, before to go to init 3 and d-u or smxi, I use the simple "apt-get distr-upgrade -dy" that download all the needed packages without the upgrade.

I test arch right now in vbox. Your article made me curious! Thanks but I recommend you to reconsider your opinion about sidux with this short "advise".